to HD or not to HD
Call me a heretic but HD television is pretty much bullshit. Whether you categorize it as a conspiracy to sell more TVs, blu-ray players and everything else associated with it is entirely up to you.
I loved reading the comments when Danielle Nagler, Head of HD @ BBC Vision called for reasons to broadcast Top Gear in HD:
What it is about Top Gear that means you really want to watch it in HD?
What are the qualities which you identify as particularly suitable for HD?
Unless you live in a rain forest far away from any TV set you’ve likely heard of Top Gear at least in passing. It is by far the best show currently being played on television anywhere. Stunning visuals, funny hosts and amusing challenges, oh and some cars you’re likely never going to drive (or see). But that’s a bonus that doesn’t really matter. The thing is… people really want to watch it in HD.
However I just don’t see why?!
I’ve been looking at many, many screens at work, day in and day out with that specific idea in mind. From uncompressed camera output, to broadcast 720p on various LCDs and huge plasma screens and all the way to standard 55cm CRT screen at home. And really, the only difference I see is in saccadic eye motion of the presenter reading off teleprompter. That and perhaps some other minor details (hair & dust on jackets) get partially lost on the way to my old cathode ray tube TV. And that’s the difference between the uncompressed stream and SD!! The compressed HD broadcast on LCD control screens doesn’t show those details either!
So really… what have we lost?
Now to get back to Top Gear. Cars are big, the landscape around them is a stage zooming past, you’re unlikely to have a particular wish to see how poorly shaved the presenters are or how many paint scratches are on the cars. So which details exactly would you like to see in HD???
HD on room sized TV sets, for the majority of content, is largely a pointless exercise. Period.
Addendum: Aug. 3rd 2009
Apparently I stepped on a few toes with this one. Which is nice :) However it quickly becomes obvious people assign more meaning to HD than it deserves. But really, the name says it all – high definition. That’s all there is to it. It’s not magical picture transformation, just more detail. It’s hilarious to read the high speed movement would look less jagged and such. Well… even straight out of the camera there wouldn’t be much of a difference since movement has little to do with detail. Much more with frame rates, shutter speed and such things. And after all that comes compression. Which destroys all that lovely detail, especially in high speed movement, especially at bandwidths currently used in broadcast.
I’m pretty sure BBC is aware of that and that it is probably the reason they’re asking for (good) reasons why Top Gear should be in HD. They just don’t see the point. The HD decision would be pure marketing and little substance.
Addendum: Aug. 5th 2009
I see we got around to the age old audiophile paradox. For some people a CD or god forbid an MP3, is simply not good enough. Nothing short of top quality vinyls and associated hardware in a purpose built acoustically perfect room would do (slightly exaggerating of course). This sort of phenomena is widespread in every hobby really. Which is fine. I don’t care what other people spend money on.
What started this post were ridiculous claims by people who only want the best, but quite honestly have no idea what that is. Repeating marketing hype is easy. Justifying ones expensive purchase by any means necessary is something Mike Johnston wrote about quite a few times (browse the archives if you wish) and is quite natural. Everyone does it. He also wrote about the difference between worthiness and value. Two wildly different concepts.
I guess what I tried to say from the beginning is that sometimes you need the ability to step back and evaluate something in an uninvolved manner. BBC is doing that (I hope so) by trying to figure out if HD would bring enough added value to Top Gear. On the quality scale it probably wouldn’t, on marketing it probably would.
Should of gone to spec savers
You don’t know who we are or where we are from. But we have read this – and we have loled.
I have a pretty good idea on both, which is beside the point really, I’m just glad to have made your day a bit nicer.
It’s hilarious to read the high speed movement would look less jagged and such.
You are mixing up very different points here.
The high speed movement’s “jaggedness” is caused by poor filmization of the content.
BBC HD’s standards would mean this wouldn’t happen and it would be proper 25p or proper 50i, both of which have pros and cons. Both would solve that issue and provide a more realistic and immersive programme experience.
I’m not sure where the misunderstanding comes from but I do believe we agree on that point. Jaggedness (unlike some commenters on the BBC site would like to believe) has little or nothing to do with HD vs SD but the way it is filmed (and also encoded). 25p or 50i is an issue that would ideally be solved on a per content basis. Sport would likely look better in 50i whereas movies and such in 24/25p. It is technically possible (I believe) but probably not that easy to implement.
I watched the Top Gear episode, in HD, where the three of them raced to the North Pole and it was breathtaking. The extra clarity really made a huge difference in bringing the whole thing to life. HD everything for me, please.
Excellent! Another “what’s the point of HD?” type of rant!
Seriously, if you can’t see the difference between SD and HD then you either have an incorrectly set-up tv, you sit too far away from the screen, you have too small a tv, or you just plain need your eyes testing.
As one of the BBC’s highest rated shows, Top Gear is perfect for the HD treatment. Cars look fantastic in HD. That is the bottom line here. If you don’t believe me, go and watch a blu-ray with a good car chase in it – super shiny, bright, vibrant, crisp colour.
And I haven’t even started with the beautiful way that the features in Top Gear are shot. Again, perfect for HD. If you need a point of reference for scenery looking gorgeous in HD, try Planet Earth on blu-ray, or even have a look at some of Gardeners World that you broadcast in HD.
And finally… Are the BBC not supposed to be the best in the broadcasting industry? Is Top Gear not sold and watched throughout the whole world? Should it not, therefore, be everything that it can possibly be? And in this day and age, that means high definition.
Get it sorted.
Please.
@Jernej
If it were in HD the jaggies would not occur because BBC HD rules state that such a filmization technique is not allowed…